Could the Council Treasurerplease explain exactly where the Parliament is sovereign, and the will of Parliament as ensrined in legislation and applied by Ministers who are responsible to Parliament is of paramount importance. The four tops There may well be some delays due to the Covid test centre and whatever the Government finds it must do in relation to HGVs after the end of the post-Brexit interim period, but none of that will deflect RiverOak from starting their plans within the months ahead and developing the infrastructure they are now required to complete as consented over the next few years. October 22, 2019. Manston Airport: Flights planned after five-year closure. Tony Freudmann, of RSP, said: “We have received notification from the court and are meeting our lawyers this afternoon. As for the suggestion that following the procedure laid out by Parliament in the Planning Act 2008 as amended is an affront to democracy, that’s a pretty weird argument. Thanet: A decision on the future of the Manston Airport site has finally been made. expected LOL Also, with only 1-2 stands, the passenger side never stood a chance without serious investment, which it never received from KCC or anyone else. What next for Manston Airport? We will be issuing a statement later today or tomorrow morning.”. and for those that think there is some sort of covenant, that is meaningless when the old and new owners are in collaboration, why do you think they sold so quickly and easy? There was a vote and Pier’s lot voted against Bayford (who then retired) and the Labour (elected) councillors were asked to take over the reins. Shock Horror! Thanking some responsible person in anticipation of being posted answers to the above queries. P.S. Then I will seek a judicial review as to how can it be fair or right to cap Jenny Dawes expenditure on requesting this JR then expect the taxpayers to cover any extra cost incurred beyond the cap. The Court has now listed a 1.5 day substantive hearing for 16-17 February 2021, of the case which has been brought by the remarkable Jenny Dawes. Please kindly explain exactly which account the money is being taken from and from which budget heading. The crowdfunder set up to help pay for a judicial review has now reached more than £80,000. A judicial review can go ahead to challenge the government's decision to allow an airport site to be developed. Good news. After a couple of years, a Coalition Government of Liberal Democrats and Conservatives amended it through the Localism Act, and there have been a few other tweaks by Parliament over the years. The claim, issued on 19th August, contends that the Secretary of State’s analysis of the need for the development was flawed, and that moreover, the Secretary of State failed to discharge his duty to ensure that the net UK carbon account for the year 2050 is at least 100% lower than the 1990 baseline (“Net Zero”), under section 1 of the Climate Change Act 2008. Smokey robinson It would be good, too, to see the full text of the decision by the High Court Judge who decided to grant Leave to Apply for the Judicial Review that will now take place. There are no co-sponsors.I suppose you get your legal knowledge from FB Law Society! Picture: Alan Langley. Some body please go and see Jenny Dawes and her d**k head mates and tell them this will create more jobs, bring new trade to a dying county on it’s knees! Ramsgate Town Council is one of the backers of the cause with the majority of councillors agreeing to donate £5,000 – and up to £10,000 if needed – of council funds to the cause. October 18, 2020. If they think you’re in with a chance, then launch a crowd funding page; the solicitors will brief a QC or two; papers will be out before the Court, and if the challenge is considered meritorious, it will be allowed to proceed. The Secretary of State will make a decision based on the Examining Authority’s Report and the further representations. I would be an Interested Party in any such challenge. You’ve let Ramsgate rot for decades, and now people who care are making it great again with sustainable jobs. DwB I’m afraid you’re the d**k head. I have been told by colleagues who I used to work with fear not “the pot is cooking” a lot is being looked out in the background and will see the light of day in due course. The national interest must prevail. Leave the land to the rats and travellers. “If you do not like it, move!” Well DwB, for someone who’s only been living here for 3 years you are certainly quick to pick up the airport supporters favourite lines. At the last election, a number of councillors made it clear they would not support an airport. According to RSP’s responses to ExA questions, they hoped to raise the money through investment and bank loans. A hearing set for the legal challenge over the government’s decision process in granting permission for the development of Manston airport into an air freight hub will not take place after the Department for Transport/ Secretary of State said the case would not be contested. On what grounds Robster? The sole purpose of a JR is to check, in a court of law, that the decision process was legal. I am 35 years old so to call me a dinosaur is slightly silly. The move has enabled RSP to push ahead with plans for the air hub, which it hopes will handle at least 10,000 cargo movements per year from April 2023. Then the coronavirus pandemic once again delayed the final decision, with the deadline pushed back to July 10. image caption Manston Airport closed in May 2014 with the loss of 150 jobs A decision on the proposed reopening and development of Manston Airport has been delayed, the government has announced. A judge has granted permission for a legal challenge against the government’s decision to reopen Manston airport. Planespotters don’t have a clue about the Law, Ah yes, the pro airport supporters choose to forget about that RR because it suits them. But, the Department of Transport has now acknowledged that the decision approval letter issued from the Minister of State did not contain enough detail about why approval was given against the advice of the Planning Inspectorate. Waiting in Vain – Bob Marley congratulations on wasting more money. Manston Airport. What use is an airport at the end of the country with no decent links to any heavily populated areas? The review would look at whether the Government followed correct procedure in reaching the decision to approve the DCO for landowners RiverOak Strategic Partners. Why are Thanet Council under umpteen councils 2020. Info about the case at. The economic case simply does not add up. A developer has been granted consent to reopen Manston airport as a freight hub – a move described as shocking by the director of CPRE Kent. Also… why do they think that living somewhere their whole life is such an achievement. Why on earth do we not have a council in Cliftonville? RTC have already used taxpayers money towards this JR that in itself should be examined by a court as to was the correct process used by the council to use that money. A decision on the application for a Development Consent Order for Manston Airport was taken on 09 July 2020 and has now been issued. The names of RiverOak Directors were published some time ago, and various other names may be revealed in due course, but that isn’t going to be relevant to the judicial review of this DCO. An announcement on the plans was expected over … “The Government’s irrational decision to overturn the Planning Inspectorate’s recommendations in the face of all the evidence was completely baffling.”. Upon what basis the Defendant disagreed with the expert evidence produced by York Aviation, and others, against the need case. Its quite simple. My name is actually “Peter Quincy” (don’t tell anyone) but I choose to use a non de nym or pseudoplume because of the unpleasant threats made by some airport supporters against those who would rather have quiet skies over Ramsgate. Hmmm. The secretary of state for transport allowed the DCO into whether the former airport in Thanet could reopen as a cargo airport with the potential for future passenger flights in July, to a mixed reaction from both supporters and anti-airport campaigners. Published 3 July 2019. ??? money came from. A crowdfunder launched by Ms Dawes last month to help fund the fight has reached £65,120 in pledges. Let’s all moan together. Manston Aurport is exactly what Thanet needs !! Manston Airport closed in 2014 (Image: Gareth Fuller/PA Wire). Manston is in the wrong place for an airport, as the evidence confirms, and for all those so obsessed when it was last open, it clearly wasn’t enough to stop it going bust over and over. It will be interesting to see if the JR concludes that the decision to grant the DCO was legal or not given the government’s legally binding commitment to net zero emissions by 2050 and the acknowledged and significant contribution that Manston would make to UK emissions by this date. Judy garland Be careful what you wish for, your fascist utopia is just around the corner. Neither does HMG “We and our investors remain fully committed to the Manston project, which will be needed more than ever to support UK global trade, both following the completion of the Brexit transition period on 31 December and as we seek to rebuild the economy following COVID-19.”, Police called to three vehicle crash in Ramsgate, Little ones raise cash for Children’s Air Ambulance, The farce continues (whatever side you’re on)…, Yes and now at Thanet taxpayers expense when cash could be used for more urgent issues elsewhere within the borough. Those who object to this are presumably against the rule of law and wish law breakers to go free. oh and that was TDC. Finally a decision was due on January 18 of this year, but this was pushed back to May 18 because of both the new evidence submitted and disruption caused by the December general election. I speak from personal experience of having heard them for myself at my front door. Pipe Dreams – Nelly Furtado This is great news. Usl locals who’ve lived here know it! Tears of a clown So many experts so little knowledge The sacred cow of Manston Airport won’t be taking to the skies any time soon, so perhaps its supporters should be thinking of moving near an existing airport so that they can hear the music of the engines above them and smell the aviation fuel. First prize is an electric barge, 2nd prize is 10kgs of freeze fried fish. Decision over Manston airport site Development Consent Order -due today – still not announced A decision by the Secretary of State due today (May 18) on the long running saga over the development consent order application to create a cargo hub at the Manston airport site has still not been … Bill, the only thing being cooked is RSP’s goose , Wondering what playlist RSP and the pro-ecocide and Pro-Ramsgate-destruction commenters like “Labour Loony Left” might listen to whilst drinking the Kool Aid? The examining authority comprised four inspectors (Kelvin MacDonald, Martin Broderick, Jonathan Hockley and Jonathan Manning). The decision on whether to use Manston as an airport again has been delayed for four months. Loving all the airfield nostalgics rant about the current laws being applied by a judge, has to br seen to be believed. The airport used to be open. Perhaps they could do this outside court when we get there? ‘Tony Freudmann, of RSP, said: “We have received notification from the court and are meeting our lawyers this afternoon. Be interesting to apply that predictor to the rubbish spouted by RSP and its supporters. 3. Parliamentary under secretary for transport, Nusrat Ghani, announced that an inquiry into the plans – due any day now – would be extended until May 18. Words: Laura Edgar. Are you new to the area by chance? Dream on. Now how is that an affront to democracy? It failed because it’s in completely the wrong place, people didn’t want to use it, and it’s in possibly the worst place in the UK to function as a freight hub. Picture: Alan Langley. If you do not like it, move! ), the JR has NOT been awarded: all that is happened is that a high court judge has determined that Jenny Dawes may APPLY for a Judicial Review. So says another FB expert. In the event, Grant Shapps distanced himself from the decision citing a conflict of interest (he had enthusiastically and publicly supported the redevelopment of Manston Airport into a cargo hub prior to his appointment as the SoS for Transport). That’s what the piece says. As is widely observed, the vocal minority supporters do like to have their tantrums and make bullish comments. The JR bid was launched by Ramsgate Coastal Community Team chairperson Jenny Dawes with a crowfunder raising some £80,000 in pledges to date. Have you seen anyone cleansing covid 19.. No. the last time they went to work. Tony is running the raffle. It is understood that a fresh decision on the development order cannot be issued while the legal process of a JR is taking place. instructing Paul Stinchcombe QC, Richard Wald QC & Gethin Thomas in Judicial Review of Sec State’s decision to approve re-opening of Manston Airport, as dedicated freight airport. Why would RSP be so coy about its investors? The secretary of state for transport allowed the DCO into whether the former airport in Thanet, Kent could reopen as a cargo airport with the potential for future passenger flights in July, to a mixed reaction from both supporters and anti-airport campaigners. And now with CV having a huge negative impact on aviation globally, there’s not a snowball in hell’s chance of attracting more than £350M of investment. https://www.crowdjustice.com/case/support-judicial-review-of-man/. They are keeping their cards close to their chest for now. Their reasons included the simple fact that there is no need for a new cargo hub at Manston, with spare capacity at many other airports, as well as the threat it poses to the Government achieving its climate commitments. Today, Thursday 9 July 2020, the application for Manston Airport, near Ramsgate in Kent, has been given development consent by the Secretary of State for Transport. Angela Stevens why as admin on SMAA are you allowing abusive comments about a certain anti on a post from Ray Ellis which occurred on Twitter. What grand announcements? Ms Dawes says her action was launched due to fears for the impact locally – particularly Ramsgate – and on the climate. All. Not once but twice. A decision on the application for a Development Consent Order for Manston Airport was taken on 09 July 2020 and has now been issued. The best use for the airport would be to host clean, green industries associated with the future low carbon world. It will still re-open as an airport. I think you’ll find the high resolution detection finder might be an even bigger issue. Not another factory? unless people are going to be flying out of manston standing on pallets, as they will as it is a cargo hub that is going to open, saying not enough people using it means it will fail is nonsense. JRs should be abolished they are just being used by agitators subversives to undermine democracy. The Council have still not managed to get traffic stoppers for our pedestrian zone – Canterbury has – Ashford has but no we will spend our resources continuing the years long airport fiasco- lets just sit here and rot away allowing no change, traffic stoppers is down to KCC Highways not RTC “A decision by the Secretary of State over the development consent order to create a cargo hub at the Manston airport site has been pushed back by four months. It is the Judicial Review of it. A date for the judicial review into the decision to allow Manston Airport to reopen has been set. Than you say you moved 3 years ago thinking the airport was open lol now who’s the silly one, thought the airport was open that’s funny lol. Air travel becoming greener – only when conducted by flying pigs. “We faced a similar situation two years ago when we withdrew our DCO application, to provide additional information, before successfully resubmitting it for acceptance. In South Buckinghamshire DC v Porter  UKHL 33, the House of Lords confirmed that any such reasons must be adequate and intelligible, and enable the reader to understand why the matter was decided as it was and what conclusions were reached on the principal important controversial issues. Meanwhile, the local support is really only dressed up anti housing sentiment wilfully refusing to acknowledge the houses are coming anyway. But today the deadline has been extended for four months - and the government says they need more time to receive information from the applicant. So a JR will have to be the final arbiter. But hey, you hold up the airport. Don’t worry, Dominic Cummings is putting the final nail in the coffin for democracy by moving to abolish JRs, so I hope you enjoy living under a dictatorship. The planning examination has rumbled on for years, with numerous public examinations and even the reopening of submissions after the original deadline once … We will be issuing a statement later today or tomorrow morning.” ‘ Manston Airport reopening decision delayed until July. As I said before, if you don’t like it, Move on. Eh “Realistic” Girl ? The decision was released the day after the government launched its Net Zero board to advise on its transport decarbonisation plan. Manston Airport: Flights planned after five-year closure. “We subsequently learned that the Interested Party, RiverOak Strategic Partners Ltd, will not be defending their claim. They should be paying Ms Dawes, not the other way round! Filed in General News, News about Airports, Recent News. DwB you obviously don’t have your finger on the pulse. The Antis have nothing better to do. But even if the JR fails, it’s most unlikely that aircraft will ever fly from Manston. I imagine it would be something like this …, I Fought The Law (and the law won) – The Clash https://www.instituteforgovernment.org.uk/explainers/judicial-review, Read the facts about JR’s before spouting nonsense Permission has been granted for a legal challenge over the government’s decision process in granting permission for the development of Manston airport. The recommendations have been sent to Transport Secretary of State (SoS) Grant Shapps, who has 3 … We have a world famous air strip on our door step and narrow minded ppl like you want to pave over it and create houses and shops! Thanet taxpayers are only paying for the missed business rates, new homes bonus and council tax subsidy that could have been reaped if SHPs plans were agreed. They need to be brought to account for their actions. “Ready for takeoff 2023” doesn’t really seem to be a fair appraisal of their current situation. Take your pollution, I’ll manners and vitriol somewhere else. It must have occurred to the most blinkered sociopath that there was a possibility that the JR application would be granted, and to have an appropriate statement ready to release to the press. It’s up the the judge, Mrs Justice Lang, to determine what’s justifiable and what’s not. Thanet taxpayers? How has it done that? A decision is expected to be made this week on the future of Manston Airport in Thanet. A second extension of deadline for the reopening and redevelopment of Manston Airport has been made, the altered deadline is to 10 July 2020. The government has delayed a decision on the Development Consent Order (DCO) for redevelopment of Manston Airport in Kent into a cargo hub. As I have always said the airport has always been there but you still chose to live there. Always an airport? Stop preventing Thanet from striving! Whether, and if so why, he considered that facilities could not be constructed at those existing airports to meet that quantum of need. image caption Manston Airport closed in May 2014 with the loss of 150 jobs A decision on the proposed reopening and development of Manston Airport has been delayed, the government has announced. Manston Airport decision put on hold again. “Ramsgate Resident” (btw, just how many other sobriquets do you use on here? What does “almost completely unfettered discretion” mean? We rely on the roads to get things out! What’s wrong with wanting to protect the environment and safeguard our future generations from the outfall of the climate crisis? Using the green tag to justify her selfishness. October 22, 2019. All content © Airportwatch 2021 unless otherwise stated | Login. I want the county to be outward facing, world traveling! Now the application for the review has been granted, the Secretary of State’s decision in July to approve a development consent order to open Manston as a freight cargo air hub will be challenged in court. The Department of Transport approved the application to create an air freight hub at the site. Whether, and if so why, he considered those existing airports (Heathrow, Stansted and EMA) not to be preferred locations to meet that quantum of need. I would comment further but I need to dig out some fleas from my dreadlocks and put some lentil soup on for tea. Have one Council for all. 2. As for the JR: it hugely transcends arguments about how many jobs the airport (were it ever to happen) might or might not produce, nor about where the overall costs will be paid from. “Phyllis Quot” and other Pseudonymists: whether from ignorance or malevolence, perhaps, you complain that RiverOak has not provided particulars about their investors or the portfolios of their investors, yet you won’t reveal your own name on a local newspaper blog? I have asked lots of times for the pro’s on here to answer a few simply questions, they havent answered one yet ! A decision by the Secretary of State due today (May 18) on the long running saga over the development consent order application to create a freight hub at the Manston airport … Why bother with a planning inspectorate if a well-reasoned recommendation can be overturned on a personal whim? Sue, it’s RTC money to be used in the best way for Ramsgate residents. White Paper. They still have a mountain to climb. I simply cannot understand why people like you are so besotted by the idea of having a busy noisy polluting cargo airport near where they live. There are also strong arguments on air pollution and the UK’s climate targets. The decision could be either a refusal to make a Manston Airport Development Consent Order or a decision to grant such a Consent Order. It’s okay Danny Skeedale the screenshot of “cutting an antis b******s off has been saved if needed. Besides, nothing can happen whilst it’s a lorry park! I agree with Ann, if Dawes and Ramsgate Town Council lose the case as I am sure they will, then they should carry the cost, If they can’t then it should ruin them as they are trying to ruin the hopes and wishes of others who are trying to seek meaningful employment and worthwhile income in this area by trying to stop the reopening of Manston Airport. Simples. The substantive hearing – which involves the lodging of evidence from the defendant, and interested party (RiverOak Strategic Partners Ltd) – was to assess whether the Government followed correct procedure in reaching the decision to approve the DCO for the landowners, even though this overturned the recommendation of the Planning Inspectorate (PI). Tremendous news! Nobody seems to have noticed on his last PR absurdity Tony mentioned new institutional investors were coming on board and the existing ones would take a back seat. Idiots. Alas, we are stuck with a local council stuck in the past and who shut down any talks of the airfield being anything other than an airfield. The future of Manston Airport has been subjected to further delay in the light of the application for Judicial Review. What a fool believes, 7 rooms of gloom A decision on whether to approve plans to develop Manston Airport in the UK into a cargo hub has been delayed by the UK government. I’ve been told by a bloke in the pub who had a man round to do his roof whose mother’s cat wormer’s child minder has it on good authority that [any made up nonsense you care to insert] so it must be true. The move has enabled RSP to push ahead with plans for the air hub, which it hopes will handle at least 10,000 cargo movements per … And if you want to launch a JR into the JR or whatever, all you have to do is consult with a solicitor. The Court has now listed a 1.5 day substantive hearing for 16-17 February 2021, of the case which has been brought by the remarkable Jenny Dawes. The period for legal challenge is defined in s118 of the Planning Act 2008.Further information about legal challenge can be found in the letter sent to all Interested Parties accompanying the Secretary of State’s decision and statement of reasons. Not a lot, in the opinion of the experts and the PI. 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